Tape 020 Side A: “Sam and Me 5/10/95 Phone” Side B: unlabeled, May 10, 1995

Side A: Johnny and Sam talk about Sam’s book that he is finishing, going to the Kentucky Derby and getting an autograph from Eddie Arcaro. The conversation shifts to a discussion about the book Johnny is working on, watching the Pelican Brief with Scarlett and Sam’s acting in it. Johnny talks about troubles with drugs, a visit from an old friend, and Sam reads a passage of his book.

Side B: This side is a continuation of the discussion on the previous side. Johnny candidly talks with an unknown man about beds. The unknown man tells a story about working at a feed and pet store. Johnny talks about certain aspects of the way he was raised, what he likes about the character of Scrooge in A Christmas Carol and why it is the book of choice amongst drug users. Johnny also talks about advice his mother gave him when he was younger.